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Monday 19 October 2020

Dumb Sh!t My Property Agent Said - Part 2

This is part 2 of "Dumb Sh!t My Property Agent Said", where I list down the dumb stuff my property agent said to my family.

If you missed the first part, please click on the link below to read about it.

Dumb Sh!t My Property Agent Said - Part 1


Quick Recap

My family recently went shopping for a new house. 

After we visited one of the homes, we had a conversation with the seller-side property agent.


The agent was explaining how to earn money in Singapore's property market.

Needless to say, I thought half of what the agent said was completely crazy or stupid.


To quote Uncle Roger, "Different people have different opinions, just some people are wrong".


Dumb Thing the Agent Said

"99-years properties has risen much more than 999-years and freehold property over the last decade. The trend is there. So I tell my buyers that buying 99-years property can give better returns than 999-years or freehold properties if done right"

Not the agent's exact words, but that's the gist of it.


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My Inner Thoughts

The salvage point of the whole statement the Agent gave, was that ending of "if done right".

Otherwise, the whole statement is just a logical fallacy. 


"99-year properties have risen more in value (or price) than 999-years or freehold properties over the last decade."

This statement is true - refer to 99.co research.

But it is a bad idea to presume what happened in the past will continue forward, especially for the following reasons.

A: the Government announced in 2017 that all 99-years properties will be worth $0 at the end of its lease. 

Would you still push prices up knowing that it'll be worthless after 99 years? 


B: assuming that 99-years higher growth rates will continue indefinitely into the future.

The price will probably peak at where the price matches those of freehold status. 

People are not that dumb to spend equal or more money to buy a 99-years property when that same amount can be used to buy a freehold. 

So that growth rate will reach a cap and eventually the 99-years will grow at the same rate as the freehold.


Personal Take

Personally, I'm not a huge fan of property investments because of several reasons.

1. Govt always has a stake in ensuring property prices/rentals are not too high.

If prices are too high, people will complain, and Govt will lose votes.

Which is why we have tools like ABSD, etc.

All these policies are putting a cap on my returns.


2. Too many fees involved.

Commissions to agents for buying/selling/renting.

Then there's maintenance, conservancy, property tax, etc.

With stocks, I pay no capital gains tax, no dividend tax, & I don't even need to manage anything.


Of course, this is just my point of view.

You can have your point of view on why properties are such great investment. 


Conclusion

A great property agent is not a great financial or investment adviser.

If the Agent can get your house sold easily, GREAT!

But financial or investment advice from them, take it with a pinch of salt.


There are more to come as a slowly breakdown crazy stuff the property agent said.

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Monday 12 October 2020

Dumb Sh!t My Property Agent Said - Part 1


My family recently went shopping for a new house. 

After we visited one of the homes, we had a conversation with the seller-side property agent.


The agent was explaining how to earn money in Singapore's property market.

Needless to say, I thought half of what the agent said was completely crazy or stupid.


To quote Uncle Roger, "Different people have different opinions, just some people are wrong".


Dumb Thing the Agent Said

"We should make our money work for us. That's why I recommend my clients if they have the chance to sell their 2 homes and upgrade to a landed."

Not the agent's exact words, but that's the gist of it.


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My Inner Thoughts

If you have 2 houses, you can stay in one, rent out the other one, and essentially live off rental income for the rest of your life - if it is sufficient.

That's the real "making money work for you".


If you sold the 2 houses to buy 1 landed and stayed in that landed.

Where you going to get your monthly (rental) income if you don't work?

You basically cannot retire or live off your rental income.

You going to break that landed into different segments and rent it out to different families while your own family stays in it?


To me, that was just the Agent making a sales pitch.

The commission from selling 2 houses and then buying a landed is HUGE!


Not a good investment or property advise.


Conclusion

A great property agent is not a great financial or investment adviser.

If the Agent can get your house sold easily, GREAT!

But financial or investment advice from them, take it with a pinch of salt.


There are more to come as a slowly breakdown crazy stuff the property agent said.

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Thursday 1 October 2020

Complicated Steps To Pay $10 DBS Stock Brokerage Commission

I signed up for DBS Vickers trading account recently after I saw the minimum $10* trading fee.

The standard fee is $25++ so naturally, it made sense to switch over to DBS Vickers from my current broker.


In addition, investing via DBS Vickers qualifies as 1 of the eligible transactions to earn higher interest for our savings in the DBS Multiplier account.

It is one of the things that we wrote about in the previous article: 3 Tips To Earn More Interest With DBS Multiplier.


But, it is not as straight forward as it seems.

I tried to trade with the $10 fee, and I ended up paying the $25 standard trading fee.

And so this article is to help you not have to go through what I went through 👍. 



Applying for Cash Upfront Trading

There's a ton of guides online on how to set it up.

Go read them.

Or, read this one from DBS 😉.



Logging Into Vickers 

If you want to pay the $10* rate, DON'T LOGIN TO VICKERS!

Yes, DON'T!

You won't see the 'Cash Upfront' payment option, you will only see the 'Cash' option in 'Settlement Mode', which is not the same as 'Cash Upfront'.



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Paying the $10* Rate

After you have got the cash upfront account set up, now it is time to select that option when making your investment purchase.

NO! 
It is not as simple as logging in to your DBS Vickers account and simply click 'Buy'.
You can't do that even though it should be that intuitive.
There are steps involved 🤷‍♂️.

If you just logged in straight to DBS Vickers to make your purchase, you are going to be charged for $25++ standard trading fees, just like how I got charged that much for my trade.

To get the $10 rate, these are the following steps:

1. Log in to your DBS/POSB Internet Banking

2. Go to 'Invest' > 'DBS Vickers Online Trading Services'

3. Go to 'Trade' > 'Place Order'

4. Under 'Settlement Mode', choose 'Cash Upfront'

And that's how you get the $10 trading fee.


Side Note

Make sure you have previously linked your DBS eMulti-Currency Account or Multiplier Account.
Make sure you also have sufficient funds of the currency inside to pay for your trade.
Ie; if you are buying stocks paid in USD, make sure you have USD in your account.


Actual Cost of Trade

The minimum cost of a trade is $10, or 0.12% of the whole trade, whichever is higher.

Source: DBS

To view the actual cost of trade via Cash Upfront, click HERE.


Conclusion

So hard to save money on trade commission.

We hope you don't have to make this mistake that we did.


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